For years now, the many religious communities that were “re-formed” have been in denial about their inability to attract vocations. Fr. Benedict Groeschel, in his book The Reform of Renewal, describes listening to a speaker describe a great formation program. When asked directly, the speaker admitted there were no students in this program. Besides the inability to see their own failings in this area, many religious will deny the opposite situation, namely: the more orthodox, traditional groups get more vocations. I have seen Catholics do acrobatics worthy of Cirque Du Soleil in trying to explain how orthodox or traditionalists do not really get and keep vocations. I have seen speakers and writers try to explain that these younger, more orthodox priests and seminarians cause problems in parishes, but without mentioning any specifics. I sat next to a Franciscan who tried to say that a community known for being “conservative”, young and vibrant was not growing since they have the same number of brothers at their school as they did years ago (29). I informed him that , while that was true, this community founded a second school and a group of brothers (10) now live there. (29 + 10= 39) I might as well have just told the wall directly behind him rather than the info passing through the Franciscan.